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Re: nsm 160 b 06.03.26 19:26 |
Hi DJ,
I don’t speak Dutch and google translated some terms funny.
What do you mean with “ koppelings spoel”
The white plastic part which engages with the teethed rod on the front of the record magazine, or do you mean the electro magnet / solenoid thing…
Is everything cleaned and freshly greased/oiled?
Often the problems are linked to sticky mechanics.
Especially the lever in the right box of the magazine, and the white plastic parts on the left side of the magazine are often stuck.
And the whole carriage as well.
Start there with cleaning and regreasing.
Normally I would encourage you to exchange all the capacitors in the box, if not already done.
They tend to fail, even if your voltages seem to be fine for now.
My consul became a smoke machine out of a sudden
Kind regards
Christian
Edit:
You can find many information in the archive: [www.jukebox-world.de]
And I recommend to buy the manual of your box here in the shop. Maybe there is even an English version.
Please contact Mr or mrs stamann to ask if you can’t find that one in the online shop.
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I don’t speak Dutch and google translated some terms funny.
What do you mean with “ koppelings spoel”
The white plastic part which engages with the teethed rod on the front of the record magazine, or do you mean the electro magnet / solenoid thing…
Is everything cleaned and freshly greased/oiled?
Often the problems are linked to sticky mechanics.
Especially the lever in the right box of the magazine, and the white plastic parts on the left side of the magazine are often stuck.
And the whole carriage as well.
Start there with cleaning and regreasing.
Normally I would encourage you to exchange all the capacitors in the box, if not already done.
They tend to fail, even if your voltages seem to be fine for now.
My consul became a smoke machine out of a sudden
Kind regards
Christian
Edit:
You can find many information in the archive: [www.jukebox-world.de]
And I recommend to buy the manual of your box here in the shop. Maybe there is even an English version.
Please contact Mr or mrs stamann to ask if you can’t find that one in the online shop.
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Re: nsm 160 b 06.03.26 21:50 |
You said that there is a new coupling solenoid in it.
Why did you exchanged it in the first place?
If you unplug your carriage, can you measure a connection between yellow and green?
Why did you exchanged it in the first place?
If you unplug your carriage, can you measure a connection between yellow and green?
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Re: nsm 160 b 07.03.26 12:05 |
So something between Short and open line 
Can you try to track down the wires in the carriage?
Maybe there is something wrong…
Or responder the solenoid an measure it alone.
Can you try to track down the wires in the carriage?
Maybe there is something wrong…
Or responder the solenoid an measure it alone.
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Re: nsm 160 b 07.03.26 18:32 |
Then maybe the solenoid is not triggered correctly.
Can you measure power there?
It should get current when the motor solenoid on LPII kicks in.
Please check that also. (The green line in my picture)
Can you measure power there?
It should get current when the motor solenoid on LPII kicks in.
Please check that also. (The green line in my picture)
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Re: nsm 160 b 08.03.26 20:55 |
Please decide if you would like to keep this thread or if we should step over to the German thread.
It will be to confusing to read both
For me englisch and German will work fine. But the majority in this forum is German.
There are much more experienced guys out there…
I’m still a beginner, but I already have three NSMs and I started just one year ago…
For now I’ll answer in this thread:
I just measured my box and on connector 4b I have also 148V to ground.
(Measured on the connector 4b in the middle where the green cable comes out)
In my humble opinion the green wire in connector 5a is for the selection display and album/single illumination.
There 20V are okay.
I’m a bit confused where you measured a green line in connector 1a/b there should be no green wire. Only orange/black/green-yellow/gray with 230V AC Main power.
Maybe I misunderstood you where you took your measurements.
It will be to confusing to read both
For me englisch and German will work fine. But the majority in this forum is German.
There are much more experienced guys out there…
I’m still a beginner, but I already have three NSMs and I started just one year ago…
For now I’ll answer in this thread:
I just measured my box and on connector 4b I have also 148V to ground.
(Measured on the connector 4b in the middle where the green cable comes out)
In my humble opinion the green wire in connector 5a is for the selection display and album/single illumination.
There 20V are okay.
I’m a bit confused where you measured a green line in connector 1a/b there should be no green wire. Only orange/black/green-yellow/gray with 230V AC Main power.
Maybe I misunderstood you where you took your measurements.
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Re: nsm 160 b 10.03.26 22:09 |
Hello Christian,
The coil is complete with a plug and push rod and works well. When I press the screw, it engages the motor clutch. I think the plug isn't working.
The coil is complete with a plug and push rod and works well. When I press the screw, it engages the motor clutch. I think the plug isn't working.
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Re: nsm 160 b 10.03.26 22:18 |
Hi Jurgen2
I measured with alternating current, see photo.
I measured with alternating current, see photo.
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Re: nsm 160 b 11.03.26 06:03 |
Doublechecking the measurement can’t hurt here.
But I see one other point. The screw in your plug seems very big.
All three of my NSMs have a tiny screw with one slot and a spring under it.
But I see one other point. The screw in your plug seems very big.
All three of my NSMs have a tiny screw with one slot and a spring under it.
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Re: nsm 160 b 11.03.26 07:33 |
Hallo an alle,
bei den Kupplungsmagneten gibt es verschiedene Ausführungen, ob Wechsel- oder Gleichstrom (ohne extra Platine Wechselstrom oder mit extra Platine Gleichstrom).
Das hat dann auch was mit den Ohmwerten entweder 850 Ohm oder 640 Ohm zu tun. Dann ist es auch wichtig, was für ein Führungstift Metall oder Kunststoff, sowie die Plunger selbst mit Schlitz oder Kreuzschraube, mit Kupferscheibe lose oder Kupferring eingearbeitet im Plunger selbst.
So wie auf dem Foto gab es das nicht von NSM.
Hier ein Foto eventuell wie es sein sollte
Gruß teamronny
Automatentechnik Schwartz
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bei den Kupplungsmagneten gibt es verschiedene Ausführungen, ob Wechsel- oder Gleichstrom (ohne extra Platine Wechselstrom oder mit extra Platine Gleichstrom).
Das hat dann auch was mit den Ohmwerten entweder 850 Ohm oder 640 Ohm zu tun. Dann ist es auch wichtig, was für ein Führungstift Metall oder Kunststoff, sowie die Plunger selbst mit Schlitz oder Kreuzschraube, mit Kupferscheibe lose oder Kupferring eingearbeitet im Plunger selbst.
So wie auf dem Foto gab es das nicht von NSM.
Hier ein Foto eventuell wie es sein sollte
Gruß teamronny
Automatentechnik Schwartz
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Re: nsm 160 b 11.03.26 08:05 |
Good morning
I took a quick picture of the housing and the anchor. It belongs together, but there's nothing more.
Kind regards,
I took a quick picture of the housing and the anchor. It belongs together, but there's nothing more.
Kind regards,
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Re: nsm 160 b 11.03.26 13:38 |
Hallo teamronny und Varnhagen, ich habe den zweiten Anker mit Haltefeder und Metallschubstange wie auf eurem Foto. Wisst ihr, wie er angesteuert wird? Ist es Wechsel- oder Gleichstrom? Was ist die Lösung? Habt ihr irgendwelche Ideen?
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Re: nsm 160 b 11.03.26 18:01 |
Hi,
Your schematic shows the bridge rectifier (ther four diodes in a square near the R70)
So your solenoid should be DC, if your carriage is the one from the schematic.
But it’s easy to spot.
I attached you two pictures, the one with the plastic “cage” down on the carriage is the one with the bridge rectifier- DC
You can see the diodes 70-73 thru the cage.
Your schematic shows the bridge rectifier (ther four diodes in a square near the R70)
So your solenoid should be DC, if your carriage is the one from the schematic.
But it’s easy to spot.
I attached you two pictures, the one with the plastic “cage” down on the carriage is the one with the bridge rectifier- DC
You can see the diodes 70-73 thru the cage.
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Re: nsm 160 b 11.03.26 19:35 |
Hello Christian,
Here's a picture of my carriage. I'm currently repairing the tonearm. I don't see any plastic, and I'm not sure if the included schematic actually matches it.
My carriage is the same as yours in photo 1. Yours in photo 2 has a Shure system.
Kind regards,
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Here's a picture of my carriage. I'm currently repairing the tonearm. I don't see any plastic, and I'm not sure if the included schematic actually matches it.
My carriage is the same as yours in photo 1. Yours in photo 2 has a Shure system.
Kind regards,
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Re: nsm 160 b 12.03.26 09:39 |
I hope he’ll read this an will answer
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Re: nsm 160 b 12.03.26 10:19 |
Hello Cristian,
If it's in the solenoid, maybe the wrong one. Do you have a part number on it? Could you check it for me? The parts list on the schematic is 41834. The old solenoid is at my place, and it shows 349 at the end.
Kind regards, DJ
If it's in the solenoid, maybe the wrong one. Do you have a part number on it? Could you check it for me? The parts list on the schematic is 41834. The old solenoid is at my place, and it shows 349 at the end.
Kind regards, DJ
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